Undercover in a gay conversion camp
Clair just because you write a story on us does not make it accurate. I know not to expect anything different than what you have written or your mocking or your pretending to be a lesbian, but I have something to say in response.
Christ is the hope of our salvation, His teachings make us happy, and we believe He can make changes to our sexuality and or sexual desires. You present your opinions and tell your story, well I have something to say. I am not defending God for His righteous cause at all, but you want to come into our meetings for a story then you can expect a response.
You mock us and why? Because our faith isn’t relevant today in twenty-first century according to your doctrines your university teachings that we should not live according to our teachings? The Ancient of Days we believe in Him, believe He created mankind and gave mankind choice to be “good or bad.” We believe He brought forth life on this planet and divided the waters that covered the earth and then made man from the then dust of the earth, so that gives Him the Dominion and Rulership for us to choose to serve Him.
You write and mock us because we believe in His Word who reveals to us laws to live by. The Word that writes the law was made for the unholy the profane the sinner the unrighteous and those who kill. The Word that tells us that Some of you once were homosexual, but now you are washed, sanctified, justified having turned away.
The Scripture writes that The Spirit of our God can change us, our feelings, our sexual desires can be changed by Sound Teaching. The sin of homosexuality can be brought to death by the Spirit of Christ Jesus, and you mock us for wanting change and having the liberty and religious freedom to seek and want change!
At that meeting and those alike these people no longer desire to be part of the gay bars, the gay clubs, and the public toilets scene and multiple relationships but you judged them as fools. They are there as they want to change their lives and at that live a moral life. They seek Christ, who would change them, Who would bring them to a higher place. To a place that will bring them into a relationship with a God who will strengthen them to live above their desires, their sexual lust their lifestyle that they chose to walk away from for they would not be there if they did not believe what was written in the Book, The Bible.
Don’t stop reading its gets better and you might even find out I am tolerant and I am not moved by the LGBT community and give them their freedom to be and become and do in the earth today for it had to happen. For I know that without the Spirit of Christ and the knowledge of His Word/Bible you will follow your base nature, and I understand once being lesbian - tell a cat she is a horse, and she will fight you all the way to prove she is a cat, so rights they have and freedom is theirs.
We have rights, we have the choice to walk away from the gay scene, the right to no longer be homosexual. We have the choice to seek Christ for healing, transformation, and counsel as to why we are or why we were what we were; He is all knowing and all seeing.
Regardless of sexuality conviction, we believe in the holy and the sacred, don’t many other religions believe in this? This is the hope the victory of our salvation, His victory over death over sin’s ability to rule in us. His scripture tells us the lifestyle is a sin. We believe what we do, we believe what we read, what The Spirit of Christ Jesus impresses on our conscious and we believe His Truth that is His Word is truth to be accurate.
And you mock us, and you tell us that we cannot venture into His scripture His Word into His teachings to rise above our same-sex attraction. And you say what we do is inappropriate is immoral is not acceptable in your sight! We would not have been there if we did not want to be acceptable in His sight and live. As The Word asks of us to choose life, not death, to live to choose life with Him as The Way, The Truth and The Life.
Many testify of the freedom we have, set free from SSA and sure it remains for some and weak for others. Homosexuality, transgenderism is complex, change does not come overnight either, therefore you cannot judge a Christian who has been in Christ for many years. I testify to gradual change, and it has been no easy road. I testify to a knowledge of a God a Redeemer a Restorer a Saviour, who is Able. I have found Love and a better life and lifestyle and a cause greater than my own selfish desires.
Many of us are content to lay down our lives for a future for a purpose within the confinements of Biblical living. He is real, you have heard that before when Dr. Grace Augustine says to Jake Sully in Avatar, “Eywa is real, she is real Jake and I’m with her.” 1. [Online sourced 12/06/15] I supposed that moved you, maybe even the feminine goddess aspect? Even if that is a probability we are in this galaxy with that I’m sure you know the history of the ancient Mediterranean gods and goddesses?
You mock us because we found the hope of our salvation the hope of living above our sinful nature and because we believe in the promise of eternity. Who cares if it is on a new Earth after an apocalyptic crisis or in this galaxy or in a spiritual city? The reality is we believe Yahweh and Jesus Christ and His Holy Spirits and angelic beings rule this galaxy, and they have dominion and power over it. And over the lesser gods and goddesses that dwell in heavenly places that work in and through mankind their gospels their religions their will and ways.
Those you made mention of in the article, you mock these men who believe their faith is His faith His doctrines His traditions. You mock Mr. Comiskey and Chelette for the truth and convictions they hold and live by. Sure the Baptists say you cannot speak in tongues, the Seven day Adventists say you can’t eat pork, and the Catholics have their saints and Mary, the Charismatic’s cast out demons. But we all do according to the beliefs and the truths we have found corporately and individually.
For that, we are not condemned and for that we honor and obey according to the traditions and denominations we belong to. What you have written about us and said to be your truth is just that. Yet is it ok for you to tell us we are a pack of idiots and look at these fools they think their God can convert them from homosexuality? I guess according to you it is?
I challenge you to go and listen to a yearly Bible reading, Daily Audio Bible with Brian Hardin and sense what community is and listen to the prayers at the end of his reading. Many testify to healings of cancer, diabetes, heart problems, those on their death beds and you mock us and say He is not real and His Power is not able to change the heart of a same-sex attracted person and turn it toward Himself and His ways http://dailyaudiobible.com/ . After a year, you come back and write another article about community about the love we have for our God, the faith we hold and how we live by in the scriptures that are written.
When I listen to the ABC’s podcast The Spirit of Things with Rachael Kohn, she presents a story with grace and kindness and respect for people’s choices to follow and believe the god and goddesses they follow, instead of mocking people. You could do a story and cheer people like us on, and look behind the word homosexual or ex-homosexual and see the struggles we have to go through in the name of our faith.
What we turned away from that seemed natural that is our homosexuality to live a spiritual life to make a transition to be a spiritual person or at that straight to be no easy road. How we met this Christ, this God, and received freedom from the hang-ups we have had. The bondages out of control we had or the tormenting thoughts that conflicted against our upbringing. To add the sanctification lessons we have to go through to inherit a promise of eternal life, yet you mocked us.
You want to know what strong women are, what power is, what the fight really is? Can you stand? Do you think you could have endured what some of us had to and still have to? Do you think you can deal with having to give up heterosexuality for Christ, do you think you could deal with having your personality changed from straight to gay or lawlessness to holiness?
Could you be humbled by an indwelling Holy Spirit, deal with being convicted and brought to tears every time you get angry, lie or curse? Do you think you can go through visitations of evil spirits that flood your senses with fear and it is allowed until you can stand with no fear? Do you think you can handle being thrown against the wall or bounced up and down by entities you cannot see but can hear?
Do you know what sacrifice is for a greater cause than yourself? To lay down your own agenda and your own life to rescue other lives who want help? Do you think after years of training in the Spirit and the spirit realm you could have the authority to write messages of freedom, prayer strategies that dismantle the works and grounds of darkness in other person’s lives? This is the only way so one can stand without backlash or danger from these spirits that are part of the Kingdom of Darkness and the lie behind homosexuality?
Maybe if you wrote a story about the Buddhist nun you may venerate her and probably deify her, and us, you mock us! You come to us undercover as if you were one of us. Yet you discredited us who chose to be no longer homosexual.
We who go to these meetings and believe in a higher power greater than ourselves to look for freedom and liberty from the SSA. We who have sought those educated and gifted by Jesus Christ for knowledge of the very reasons of what caused our same-sex attractions, and you mock us!
Would you if the scene was not set with the current events of the LGBT movement rather sat in a meeting for those who wanted to quit porn and laughed and wrote along the same lines as this article “Undercover in a Gay Conversion Camp”?
Did you see anyone there while you were there in deceit, in the spirit of lies with any guns? Was anyone holding guns to anyone’s head? Did you see some pastors standing in any corners with any axes? Baseball bats, any of these guest speakers did they have any weapons? Were they forcing any of these people who had their hands raised and shouting praises to The Lord Jesus Christ? No, you did not, as no one had a gun to their head making them convert making them shed their gay skin.
Are you telling us we discriminate against the LGBT flag for turning away from the lifestyle, yet it appears you discriminate against us for choosing not to be gay any longer? I guess you are not even a lesbian, and you have not even been a lesbian and you went undercover. You went representing the Woman’s Weekly and defending the LGBT community for what? For what, a one-eyed story in a spirit of deceit.
I wonder did the meeting confirm what you were thinking? You want to define our lifestyle; you want to define what we believe and what we shouldn’t? If so you do not define us, the world does not, the LGBT does not, no only the Word of God does, Christ Jesus.
What is your motivation? What are you motivated to do? Banish God, and every mention of Christ Jesus? If it’s not enough, the system has taken out the Ten Commandments and removed prayer from schools. Why, because we refuse to stop believing in a power greater than ourselves or to pray to a God so He can bring a desired change from our same sex attractions.
What will you leave behind for generations to come? Does not discrimination between what is right and wrong according to your moral compass give credence to the world tomorrow? What I see is disease and death is statistically high in the gay scene while Mardi Gras marches on. You and I both know how sexually active the gay scene is. Would energies of this cause not be worth the fight to educate to change the promiscuous lifestyle of gay men and at that a change in their morals? I might add, I have no desire to change those who identify as gay, lesbian or transgender, only those who come to Christ for change?
Of course you have a moral compass against fathers with their step/daughters. You have a moral compass do you not? So do we, and we believe it is gauged by a book with 66 books called The Bible? I believe every word to be true and one day all will be judged according to what is written within.
Regardless how it differs in different versions, we believe truth can be found, and the truth is in those books and can be sought and can be found as well as freedom. Truth and freedom over sin is found through the witness of The Holy Spirit who teaches us and trains us who changes us with The Word. He who lives within us, who is a Spirit person who gives us knowledge of His will of the God we choose to serve and want to serve.
What are you doing, are you demanding we change, we come in agreement with your philosophy of life? You demand we have to change to belong to your gospel. What’s your gospel? Orange Is The New Black! Yes, and according to the ads you watch on TV? What gospel are you influenced and taught from? Cleo, Woman’s Day, Dolly, your own? And you are not influenced and brainwashed by a gospel according to who we know to be the god of this world and his kingdom of darkness?
Your gospel teaches how to be accepted, how to be sexually promiscuous, how to arouse your partner sexually, how to hook up online. All sin according to our Gospel that writes and determines what sin is, but I give you that freedom to make choices and live life according to your gospel. You have the freedom to live and choose according to your laws according to your philosophy your moral compass. Therefore, we have the right to attend meetings to seek healing, deliverance and change from transsexualism homosexuality and bisexuality.
Are you judging us and saying to us we are wrong for turning against sexual immorality according to our beliefs our religion our gospel our Bible? No point in the Bible do we ex-homosexuals read you are allowed to be a practicing homosexual. Don’t you think if some did, they would be retaining their identity and laying in the arms of the same sex even getting married while serving Christ?
What about those at the meeting who were there who wanted change. Those who no longer wanted to be homosexual in their sexual desires seeking their God for change, for a hope of falling in love with the opposite sex and be married with 2.5 family with the blessing and approval of God? Is there something wrong with that choice?
Is there something wrong with that? Have we betrayed you, have we betrayed the sect have we betrayed the cult, betrayed the universe, upset your Mother Nature? But you believe in Mother Nature don’t you, and I guess the book The Secret? But no you mock us, you ridicule us and tell us we cannot be convicted and convinced that Christianity is real and that the Bible is true.
You come undercover to write for the Woman’s Weekly and snooping on us and we are strongly convicted being homosexual is out of Gods will and out of “Gods plan for mankind lives. If we are convicted that homosexual behavior and the lifestyle is sin and is equal to practicing witchcraft then that is our right our belief. We believe quite strongly that homosexuality is sin regardless if we are attracted to the same sex or get aroused by certain types of persons.
We came to choose to love and serve Christ, chose to love Him. Just like a Buddhist monk chooses to follow their belief system their teachings and live accordingly. But no we are not allowed are we for we are seen as fools and maybe by some as betraying the LGBT cause and movement. I might add, good on them for what they have accomplished it was necessary and looking outside a biblical framework three cheers for freedom and rights.
But for us when we chose to be sanctified, to be changed to be restored to become what His Words proclaims, we can become something other than what we were. We believe what we do without seeing. We know He is real, we see Him. And you go in there undercover, and you write about us and mock us.
We don’t do it just for heaven’s sake or for fire insurance; we stay with Him even in our same-sex attractions because we come to love Him. We have come to love being bonded to a Master to a God a Redeemer. He who makes us and has made us something more than a drug addict, a lesbian, a thief, a sex addict, a woman going in cycles. You mock us because we chose to serve God, serve Christ and believe in His Power and power to sanctify and change our life and lifestyle exchanging it for His.
When you meet JESUS CHRIST, you are never the same. He then shows Himself to us in tangible love, and He becomes real to us. His Holy Spirit is His representative and leads us into His Love His Truth His Ways and the desire to be and to do what is written, and to be moral people. And what’s so bad about that! And you discriminate us on those grounds?
Yes, you do. We have freedom of speech, freedom of choice. You should not be in those meetings and is not proper to be pretending to be someone and asking loaded questions to get sensualization and for a family magazine. Ida Buttrose would never have allowed a story like this to be published, she would have respected religious freedom regardless of the LGBT movement.
We know as ministers homosexuality does not drop off over some prayer or by some angel taking it out like a kidney being removed. Nor a strategy or therapy or prayer that each minister/ministry in the earth offers. It’s personal and individual as to how and what and who and how The Holy Spirits leads and how He determines in one’s life when the person comes in agreement with Him. There is a big difference from being a Christian to a Disciple of Christ. We know it takes 20 years or even more for some that they are settled in laying down their sexuality for Christ, laying down their life to really be a Disciple in word deed and thought.
Do you want to ban us from receiving ministry to enable us to be no longer that way, or to live above that in a Christian belief? Some make it some don’t, and just because of the ones that did not do you want to crucify the ones who did make it. There are many that testify who have overcome homosexuality, who have overcome transgenderism, who have overcome bisexuality. Many have chosen Christ instead of their “sexual bent”.
Are you in agreement to want to penalize our Christian beliefs? If so then you want to remake society in your image the way that you think it should be. And you come into our meetings and don’t even have the Holy Spirit to discern the things of The Spirit. You tell us we are intolerant and tell us our beliefs systems are wrong, and yours are right, not according to our freedom of religion.
We are told we are full of hate, homophobic, bigitoted, but how ridiculous! We are being told by your article it is going to be good without God and yet we are convinced that God exists and what God writes in His Scriptures to be true and you want to tell us what is good and you want to tell us God is not good?
Well what about abortion, what about the fetuses that are fully formed and they are dismembered from the womb and limbs are torn out one by one. Or their brains are sucked out into a vacuum until the babies head collapse so it can be pulled out of the cervix. The unbelievers want to tell us their world is good tell us we are full of hate and are against freedom because we disagree with abortion and living a homosexual lifestyle and we should live according to their standard their ways, lifestyle and moral compass and not the way we believe Christs standard is.
Do you want us to go along with this moral compass that abortion is legal from the age of 6 months when a baby at five months can survive outside the womb? We believe abortion is homicide but it is legal according to the world's doctrine you follow as is homosexual marriage and gender re-assignment, yet we disagree. These acts we deem as immorality. But we understand that and understand this pathway and because the god of this age is influencing and programming and spiritually controlling with their spiritual wickedness, their principalities and supernatural powers, this is why they warn and march and speak for righteousness.
Whether you realize it or not, it is the kingdom of darkness versus the kingdom of Christ and His Angels and followers. You are either on one side or the other, “welcome to the hotel California such a lovely place.” 2. [The Eagles] You don’t even know it, but the freedom you want is under the same antichrist spirit as ISIS just a different wrapping.
The Bible I read is very specific you shall not lie with a man as with a woman Leviticus 18:22. A man shall leave his mother and father and cleave to his wife Genesis 2:24 also quoted in Matthew 19:5 and 1 Corinthians 6:9. Scriptures write don’t be deceived these who practice this will not inherit the kingdom here or the one to come. Passive homosexual’s and abusers of mankind that is masculine practicing homosexuals, the greedy the swindlers and kidnappers alike. Also slayers of Mothers and Fathers, those who are profane, those who defile themselves with mankind will not inherit the Kingdom (1 Corinthians 6:9-11; Revelation 22:15; Galatians 5:19-21; 1 Timothy 1:9-11).
What is next, brother and sister, mom and stepson, sister and sister, brother and brother in this new world you want to be part of. Whether you know it or not we are governed by spiritual law and spiritual principles. Gravity exists, what you sow you will reap, you know it as karma, and that is law from within the kingdoms of darkness, but it sound ok doesn't it?.
I have this to say to you, is it that you want us ex-homosexuals Christians to sit down the back of the bus and your kind to sit up the front of the bus? Is this what you are telling us: "you Christian ex-homosexuals you get up the back of the bus and the pagan homosexuals you sit at the front of the bus"? No way, we have rights and choices as much as you can go to the supermarket and pick Omo instead of Cold Power.
We believe He writes the law on our hearts, we believe homosexuality is not an acceptable lifestyle before Him. He is not saying I'm going to cast you to hell Kath because you have same-sex attraction. He is saying I want to work with you, I want to bring change I want to put my law on your heart and I will do this I will bring forth the desire to love me serve me obey me and live for me. I will be for you and do for you what you cannot do for yourself. I will empower you with inner strength, I will gift you with my gifts, give you Power with My Spirit to will and to do; and desire holiness and a life that is acceptable. And when you fall I will forgive you pick you up and continue to work in you from the inside out.
I will bring to death the sin in your heart, I will demolish the strongholds that are fortified that keep you bound to sexual perversion and sex outside my will and perfect plan for mankind who wants me and wants to serve me under my constitution in my Kingdom. For I Am and know what's in man, and I know the man and I know what caused a man to become transgender homosexual bisexual and at that incestuous and a paedophile, I Am Able to bring forth change.
You want to mock us and tell us that we cannot minister to those who do not want to be gay or lesbian or transgender anymore? Could you look into Karen Tate’s site Sex Religion and Politics? They are fully convinced that their goddesses and deities are real and exist, and she and her followers to these deities pray, sing and praise them. These want to change the world according to their views their beliefs systems their desires to have no patriarchal government in the family and society. Would you go and mock their freedom of religion and choices like you did ours?
What about the ancient religions pagan societies, the religions of the Ancient Mediterranean they exist and are well documented? Have you forgotten about the history and the reality of historians and the historians who wrote about gods, goddesses, and Jesus Christ being crucified? Are you telling us we cannot live what we believe to be our convictions, our ancient God, our religion, our right on the earth today our freedom in Australia. What are you trying to tell us and others because Christ is real, and He exists and The Bible to be Truth?
You could sit in these ancient goddess temples and infiltrate them and write a story about them, and then write about their beliefs and desire for maybe feminist change? Maybe the spirits in and over those meetings will be happy to promote their gospel, their truths than give Absolute Truth and witness of a God who threw them out of the heavenly realm for rebelling against His Kingdoms laws / constitution?
Will you be happy to cause us to live life like you? Will you be pleased to ban free speech, ban freedom of change and the freedom to believe in Christ? You cannot mock us and tell us we are a pack of idiots who can't stop being gay or lesbian or transgender. I think you need a reality check, and your article is spiritually inept considering the various spirit beliefs in the world.
Those of you who accuse us of hate speech, us ex-homosexual Christians, we fully understand the LGBT we identified as such. But if you want to come into our system our kingdom and tell us how we should behave. Tell us to make a golden calf and bow down and worship it in the sight of our Christ and King and party on we see as no different to bowing down to Egyptian deities. Yet another antichrist system, and full of recorded religion. Christ Jesus makes the rules in His Kingdom, we don’t replace Him and tell Him how or who and what and how one lives, behaves or enters into His Kingdom or the one to come.
The Bible prohibits homosexuality. Truth can be found regardless of the many versions of the bible in the earth today. The kingdom of darkness with their spirits of heresy and error and perversion of the gospel are not allowed to pervert fully the scriptures. Regardless of their omitting verses, words, names, genders and titles as “Forever thy Word is settled in heaven” (Psalms 119:89-96). “For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the law until everything is accomplished.” (Matthew 5:18)
Therefore, Yahweh is not going to violate His laws of go against His promises, His covenant, His truths to allow us to be a certain way because we just got to have someone tonight, we just got to lay down with someone to reach climax, we just got to have someone to hug kiss and come home to.
Yes it is true, many people come away and find it too hard to stay a servant of Christ and or a Disciple to be truly born again these who would like to go back to being homosexual and they do. These comeback and forward to meetings like the one you attended. Jesus offers Grace and Understanding and is willing to embrace them again as if they never sinned and to Him they stand. The truth also is, many of us have come to value our relationship with Him especially via His Holy Spirit. Value life more than our previous life, or sexual desires to remain in The Faith and faithful to His laws and we value our belief in an afterlife.
You want us to not try, or even to detach from what we believe to be absolute just because you think it is ridiculous and farfetched and impossible for someone to be no longer homosexual or transgender? You want to murder us and our right of choice yet maybe the guilt is on your hands, the blood of the martyrs, the blood of the saints are on your hands because you may be drunk in deception under the god of this age’s wine? Under the influence of him and you want to murder us and shut the mouth of us by shutting our mouths and ministries to people who desire change, so you condemn us for our freedom if we are not in agreement with the LGBT movement.
What will we do? Go underground? No we will fight for religious freedom. You are part of an ancient battle and you don’t even see it hear it or perceive it. Take the Christians as in Rome took them and put them in the arena and killed them, made slaves out of them, then maybe a 21st century spiritual sword is in your hands?
You think we are weak, or we are evil because we want to change, want to live a moralistic life according to what we believe are righteous truths? Read Revelation about Mystery Babylon about the Whore. You’re pushing her beliefs and you don’t even know it, but at the end she will spit you up and spit on you with no compassion or mercy or standing ovation or applause. If you ever get the honour to meet the Queen of Heaven in the next life, she won’t be handing out journalist awards or shaking your hand. She will call you names and mock you for being ignorant of her devices, so will her cohort’s antichrist, the beast or the false prophet according to my belief.
You want us to go along with your pagan beliefs your pagan system and deny Christ and have unbelief in His power to change a person? Do you side with the militant LGBT to shut our mouths? Yet you do not realize the net that is being hid will catch you and your ancestors in so many ways.
I’m sure you understand the rape culture and them saying it’s a woman fault. I’m sure you understand a boy or a girl that has been sexually abused and the system they have to go through. I’m sure you understand all that and side with the children and the person who has been raped yet you see us in a different light.
But we believe what we fight for and believe to be truth and it is not relevant or acceptable in your sight. Bully us and enable that system life against our moral freedoms our religious freedoms that may one day come back and bite you and your children through that system.
That systems I’m sure you understand is changing the fabric of society. Acceptance of fathers marrying their daughters that would change the fabric of society? Then you understand Christ does not allow mortals to change the fabric of His Kingdom and His laws. His laws says no paedophiles allowed; no homosexuals allowed, no murderers, no adulteresses allowed. But He does forgive all who break these laws and can and does change the heart to no longer be and do such acts of lawlessness. But you want us to conform to the opposite of righteousness, and that is wickedness/lawlessness.
Did it ever occur to you the killing of Christians by ISIS? Maybe our faith holds the truth, and you are on the side of the lesser gods and goddesses who are trying to shut the truth down, water down real truth and freedom for their gain.
What are you saying by writing your story, that it is ok to be sexually immoral, ok to break laws of The Bible? That it is ok to show hostility to us and want to block us from having a knowledge and understanding of a faith-based life and lifestyle in the meetings we hold.
When Christ Jesus calls homosexuality an abomination, that is God calling it an abomination, of course, those who with every nth of them who are like that do not for they see beauty in same-sex love. But God calls Himself a Holy God, He makes the rules. He wrote His constitution that cannot be changed by what He determines as sin and what brings forth the sin structures in a homosexual person.
We cannot change Him or His laws, yet He is a Compassionate, Understanding, All-knowing God who is willing to come along side anyone who is bonded in a sin structure outside His will and ways to bring forth newness and change. Even if that takes 20 odd years, He is Able and He is Patient. Even if you die having full on attractions to the same sex so long as your heart is seeking His way of life and a walk in the Spirit your salvation is real.
Many have failed, but consider, many have not made the grade in university, in schools, in colleges, in the army, police force, journalism, freedom from addictions of drugs and alcohol or life in general. Same thing, many do not overcome same-sex attraction, transgenderism in the Christian kingdom.
There is lots of reasons why people do not make it, who do not overcome in a certain areas. But it is proven many have and many testify to having broken the habit of smoking, drugs, porn, passed the exams, got through the internal power structure in the paper giants and so on.
And do you want to join sides with believers in Christ who went back, those who never made it and weep with them in their weakness for not being strong enough to fight the battle and win a victory? You fly a LGBT flag in your article to support their freedom, yet cannot give us ours to walk away, instead you mock us. Have a reality check, we that testify to change and testify to being truly born again are not the men and women we once were and we wanted that and fought for that at all odds and still fight the good fight.
This is Truth “I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.” Ezekiel 36:26 Just because someone gives you a phone number does not mean she was a law abiding, totally born again Christian who went through the process to get a new spirit and heart? Many sit in churches on Sunday and Saturday and take the walk of Christ lightly and abuse the gift of forgiveness who are not Disciples or truly born again. These will not see the kingdom in the age to come (John 3:5).
Those of us who get truly born again, it’s as if we see Jesus on the shore and jump out of the boat and swim to shore to embrace Him. Because that’s how much we want Him and love Him over our SSA. And you tell us it’s not curable and we cannot get delivered from it and you want to tell us we have not found a cause greater than ourselves. You want to tell us all this is a fake and we are frauds. No, if you had one glimpse into the Son of Man, The Son of God, The Saviour, you too would be like Peter and swim ashore and in freezing weather to go and embrace Him.
The redemption found in Christ Jesus, the transforming power of the God we serve for those of us who no longer chose any form of lifestyle whether it be prostitution, rape, violence, stealing, tax avoidance, stealing wooden pallets to make a bed or whatever crime is real. We have testimonies to share of deliverance and the reality of spirits and the loss of desire to continue living in those ways, and you mock us.
You infiltrate us for a story, when we are sincere, and we believe and have exchanged our life for His life, that’s what covenant exchange is, and you mock us for exchanging our ways for His ways. You mocked us when we were in our church and raised our hands. But what do you do at the super bowl, at cricket at football at a concert? Raise your hand how many raise their hands there and you mock us. You mock us because we have an encounter with Christ when we raise our hands. We sense His presence. God says He wants us to encounter Him during church services, and you mock us for raising our hands and shouting hallelujah and praise Jesus. We entreat Christ because we want to encounter Christ
Church is not some place of clones of Christ Jesus, we are hurting, we are broken, and we come for help from a God outside ourselves and to help us in our lawless nature. We go to these meeting because we sense the call on our lives to follow Him. You mock us and we are fully convinced what the Bible writes is true.
As far as Sue Bolin is concerned, what a woman; and you mock a woman who studied, a woman who is learned like yourself. Have you not been through university have you not studied to show yourself approved? Have you not studied according to the gospels and the doctrines at your university and how many years have you sat under your teachings and you mock Sue?
You mock those who want to be unleashed under her teaching under her anointing. Those who want to be unchained from these types of sin they no longer want. You mock us because we come into these meetings because we are jacked up, screwed up, some with illness, sickness, disease and some have had enough of the scene and the lifestyle. You mock us because we seek wholeness, healing, transformation, freedom and for some from the tormenting thoughts they cannot control and homosexual porn addiction.
In my understanding and beliefs of The Bible, you cannot solve a natural stronghold without looking into the spiritual in any circumstance that has power over a person. Our scriptures say we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against powers principalities, rulers of darkness and spiritual wickedness in high places that govern and work in and through mankind (Ephesians 6:12). We are not your enemy, which is why many cry out and call sin just that, sin. They do it out of love for humans because we beleive that one day all humans despite their religion will face the judgment on what did you do with Jesus Christ of Nazareth?
We are all on a journey it's our journey of faith whether we are charismatic, Pentecostal, protestant, Catholic or an Adventist. It’s the journey, the heart He works on and looks on, not if your own sexual desires are strong to the same sex. We are all seeking where we fit, where we believe He has called us, wants to place us. What is the purpose we have on the earth and in this life and we believe what we do is real and true. We are the church we are called to bring transformation in the church so the earth is not filled with the evil will of man’s corrupt desires, his lawless nature.
God has given man choice to be and to do on the earth today, if they want to live according to homosexual desires, paedophile desire, and bestiality desires. However, to expect consequences and penalty for living outside boundaries of His laws. You and many do not believe that, but that does not mean it is not true.
We go to these places to go to a higher place, a place with Jesus that brings us away from base desires, we want to ascend from our lusts that entangle us in addiction, in bondage, in a dark place and you mock us and pretend to be one of us! You mock us because we no longer want the paths of our old lifestyle of debauchery and unsatisfied lust.
Some of those women at that meeting wanted another path, and some of the men wanted to take a biblical path than seven or more partners in a week and this is not ok by you? God is in the business of healing and you think these meetings are all worthless, and our pursuit is a worthless cause?
Then you look at people from the outside, and you don’t know what is going on in the inside. If we want to give up our sexuality because of bad experiences, because of the sake of a promise of eternal life, for the sake of the Christ we once knew from Sunday School or for the sake of holiness living, then we can. We are within our legal rights to do as such, and you come against our freedom, mocking our convictions, and you falsifying being a lesbian for a story.
The Jesus I have come to know is a Healer and an Exorcist. Casting out demons, why would we not go to a God who has power over voices and the reality of spirits attached to transgressions of His laws of idolatry, purity and sexuality?
You mock us because we believe what Sue Boland teaches, that people’s sin has violated us, that the boundaries down in the natural and the spiritual has caused people to sin against us. Sin in sodomy, in rape, in incest, in paedophilia, in molestation, in harsh abuse, in neglect, in motherlessness or fatherlessness that caused our spirits and personalities to be twisted.
Sue's 80 percent was no doubt of those who came to her for counselling, and you twist this to discredit us. You mock us for seeking restoration and answers to unwanted same sex attraction when some long to be heterosexual and or be straight and marry and have a family. I’m sure you have validated yourself to the LGBT community.
We don’t believe we were born that way but sinned against lied to by a network of spirits that have taken opportunity to build into our personality a counterfeit thus bringing forth homosexuality. We don’t go blaming God, Daddy or Mommy or society or spirits or some biological causation, we want out and want to unravel the twistedness and the many causations to our same-sex attraction or transgenderism. It’s so complex that some of us will only have a piece of the pie not half not a whole understanding or freedom.
Those of us in ministry and who are ex-homosexuals are not homophobic. I allow people the choice to be and to do and live the way they believe. If someone wills to come away from same-sex attraction then my writings blogs teachings cd’s and books are there as a guide not as a Rule thou shall do it Kath The Christians way to understand and overcome. I don’t even minister face to face, or in replies online, work it out with The Spirit of Christ in the material that I present.
One last thing, some get distracted, so what she gave you her phone number, so what she chose the lesser life than the higher life, she will get there. Rome was not built in a day. So what she was influenced by bad spirits and came in agreement with unclean spirits, so what she will get stronger one day. But what would you know unless a man is born again he cannot see or know the things of the supernatural or of the spirit in The Kingdom of God. You cannot teach someone who is spiritually deaf and blind, yet I am sure if you read this response your intellect got informed.
"The best thing I can tell you is God loves you and sent His Son as living proof," as the songs we sing echo instead of telling you how much you mocked our liberty mocked our freedom mocked our right in the earth and in Australia to seek change and to believe that Christ Jesus is real and has the Ability to bring forth desired transformation.
To conclude I testify I’m “Born again just like Jesus said and all because of Calvary. I'm not ashamed there has been a change in me, I’ve been born again.”
Kathleen Malligan 14/06/2015
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